Re: We need a new Demise.
Posted: February 5th, 2019, 1:04 am
The overcasting losing a spell then trying to cast a new spell and not getting a cursor is exactly how it was on osi.
A Mondain's Legacy era Ultima Online freeshard.
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I agree some of the players that will come are the server hoppers. I also agree you will lose some players that like Demise casting, but on the flip side of that you’re on the verge of losing the last real group of pvpers. I’m not trying to puff my chest out but Demise is slowly losing guys like me. The server bores me. The pvp bores me. I really enjoyed pest and I enjoyed the difficulty and the skill level. When people like me finally call it quits the server will be Down to the ajanis is the world which will attract no more players.Loler wrote:They didn't have overcasting on pest like they do here or like they do on osi. And im saying if the change is put in to bring more players the players you are talking about and I'm thinking of won't stay long and the potential players you plan to lose already from the casting change is more then ajani.
Sort of ...Loler wrote:The overcasting losing a spell then trying to cast a new spell and not getting a cursor is exactly how it was on osi.
If all the delayed spells were changed to 1.25 delay instead of 1 second flat it would be closer to osi accurate then pest because of the over casting featureArden wrote:I’m confused...Loler wrote:I do not endorse the osi casting change. The people it might bring are all known server hoppers. They will be here 2-3 months max and server health will probably be worse after.Arden wrote:
I find this not true. Barcode asked for osi casting. So did Anthony file and even morto. All of which have been here much longer than myself (well morto and i got here around the same time)
I’ve seen most of kvg, many of the 1410 guys, and even China. If you played more than 10mins at a time and stopped running non stop to talk to people you’d know that.
You’re experience is with msby and nwo. Both groups exploit the hell out of steam/Demise casting. Shit man ask Jeff he prob supports it.
The only person in pvp that I’ve seen post against it is AJani (be he admits he can’t pcp without it) and you. Why are you against it?
Also demises osi casting function is closer to osi then pest was the problem is all in the timing. The time between being able to cast before you overcast is to long. And fb ma mindblast fs meteor chain light ebolt all damage .25 seconds faster then they should. I don't know how the casting speed stacks up compared to osi its just been to long for me persobally
You thought pest was less accurate than Demise ?
Is that with cast times or with spell delays.
I outlined the problems with spell delay on Demise a few posts earlier.
I honestly can't think of one person in kvg currently that could stand 1v1 vs me.Vander Nars wrote:Shake isnt a skilled pvper, hes not as bad as ajani but i can see why shake would rather have this broken casting.
I preferred and did better with razor casting. I did play osi, napa valley and lake surperior.Arden wrote:Shake needs steam and this castingThe Silvertiger wrote:Tbh, I'm surprised shake isn't on board. A return to skilled pvp. Most of the people who are for or are not opposed to it are OSI pvpers or people who played before steam was implemented.
I don’t think he played osi, and if he did he was prob garbage on there too.
Dueling on demise is not a test of a good player. Just bc u can hold down fb/ma and hit a mortal, doesnt make you good. There's no timing. Tell me exactly the skill involved?Shake wrote:I honestly can't think of one person in kvg currently that could stand 1v1 vs me.Vander Nars wrote:Shake isnt a skilled pvper, hes not as bad as ajani but i can see why shake would rather have this broken casting.
But I am a betting person. I bet 20 mil that ajani beats vander nars in a duel 1v1.
I have a similar feeling about this server. I want to quit because scripting/casting but only stay because I like the people that I play with.Arden wrote:I agree some of the players that will come are the server hoppers. I also agree you will lose some players that like Demise casting, but on the flip side of that you’re on the verge of losing the last real group of pvpers. I’m not trying to puff my chest out but Demise is slowly losing guys like me. The server bores me. The pvp bores me. I really enjoyed pest and I enjoyed the difficulty and the skill level. When people like me finally call it quits the server will be Down to the ajanis is the world which will attract no more players.Loler wrote:They didn't have overcasting on pest like they do here or like they do on osi. And im saying if the change is put in to bring more players the players you are talking about and I'm thinking of won't stay long and the potential players you plan to lose already from the casting change is more then ajani.
When have I ever dueled on runuo?Shake wrote:I preferred and did better with razor casting. I did play osi, napa valley and lake surperior.Arden wrote:Shake needs steam and this castingThe Silvertiger wrote:Tbh, I'm surprised shake isn't on board. A return to skilled pvp. Most of the people who are for or are not opposed to it are OSI pvpers or people who played before steam was implemented.
I don’t think he played osi, and if he did he was prob garbage on there too.
And last timed I checked I won our last ten duels in the arena Arden.
None.Josh wrote:Dueling on demise is not a test of a good player. Just bc u can hold down fb/ma and hit a mortal, doesnt make you good. There's no timing. Tell me exactly the skill involved?Shake wrote:I honestly can't think of one person in kvg currently that could stand 1v1 vs me.Vander Nars wrote:Shake isnt a skilled pvper, hes not as bad as ajani but i can see why shake would rather have this broken casting.
But I am a betting person. I bet 20 mil that ajani beats vander nars in a duel 1v1.
Yea especially if mortal is allowed :[Shake wrote:None.Josh wrote:Dueling on demise is not a test of a good player. Just bc u can hold down fb/ma and hit a mortal, doesnt make you good. There's no timing. Tell me exactly the skill involved?Shake wrote: I honestly can't think of one person in kvg currently that could stand 1v1 vs me.
But I am a betting person. I bet 20 mil that ajani beats vander nars in a duel 1v1.
I miss a good aos duel. Even better than a preaos duel. But its sometimes hard to kill a good lethal poison kryss spammer in an arena if we are using no pots. And we didn't like a lucky stun punch. So we came up with the tourny rules way back when to have no infect and no stun. But now a days I am not sure those should still be disallowed in tournaments.
let me know when ajani is ready to duel osi casting and ill put him in the dirt.Shake wrote:I honestly can't think of one person in kvg currently that could stand 1v1 vs me.Vander Nars wrote:Shake isnt a skilled pvper, hes not as bad as ajani but i can see why shake would rather have this broken casting.
But I am a betting person. I bet 20 mil that ajani beats vander nars in a duel 1v1.
Then you understand why I don't pvp here anymore. There are a lot of players, now pvmers, that quit pvping after UOS came out or just got fed up with UOS scripts and giggles.Arden wrote:The pvp [here] bores me.
I also believe the ajanis of the world won’t quit with a casting change bc with the change comes archer changes too. Demise needs variety. Demise needs real pvpers. Demise is losing both and not doing anything to change it.
Yes pleaseThe Silvertiger wrote:Looking forward to DS monk robes.