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Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
by The Silvertiger
Josh wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:That sounds buggy to me. Listen to yourself:
holding a button down 2/5 is better than 2/6

You're supposed to recover faster on 2/6 whether timed right or not. I guess as Eos stated before implementing it to Occlo the overcast is buggy. If I were Eos and holding to the accurate without bugs, I would implement it without the overcast, but aren't you glad I'm not Eos even though you and your friends address us about the same.
I'm aware it sounds buggy, I am just pointing out the observations from testing, it's really not a matter up for debate so I dont get why you're arguing. Watch the video, 500 ms 2/6 > 2/5. If you watch eos's gif with 0ms delay 2/5 > 2/6. But timed correctly 2/6 > 2/5, that's how osi works and not how demise works currently (based on the video), and that is one thing that needs to be adjusted and I believe it's because the overcast feature is off, Morto pointed out at the beginning that the "random delay" they had implemented he didn't think was correct, maybe he was right, the video supports his hypothesis at least.
I thought there were some other issues as well, with certain spells casting to fast and recovering incorrectly. I will finally break down and do some casting tests, but you know I'm kinda thorough, so it'll take awhile.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 9:31 pm
by Josh
The Silvertiger wrote:
Josh wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:That sounds buggy to me. Listen to yourself:
holding a button down 2/5 is better than 2/6

You're supposed to recover faster on 2/6 whether timed right or not. I guess as Eos stated before implementing it to Occlo the overcast is buggy. If I were Eos and holding to the accurate without bugs, I would implement it without the overcast, but aren't you glad I'm not Eos even though you and your friends address us about the same.
I'm aware it sounds buggy, I am just pointing out the observations from testing, it's really not a matter up for debate so I dont get why you're arguing. Watch the video, 500 ms 2/6 > 2/5. If you watch eos's gif with 0ms delay 2/5 > 2/6. But timed correctly 2/6 > 2/5, that's how osi works and not how demise works currently (based on the video), and that is one thing that needs to be adjusted and I believe it's because the overcast feature is off, Morto pointed out at the beginning that the "random delay" they had implemented he didn't think was correct, maybe he was right, the video supports his hypothesis at least.
I thought there were some other issues as well, with certain spells casting to fast and recovering incorrectly. I will finally break down and do some casting tests, but you know I'm kinda thorough, so it'll take awhile.
i think the only thing i've seen is maybe the ma/fb missile speeds are off.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 10:50 pm
by Mr Straitions
Talking about casting is so 2008. Seriously we've been talking about this for years can we come to an agreement or something.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 10:54 pm
by The Silvertiger
Mr Straitions wrote:Talking about casting is so 2008. Seriously we've been talking about this for years can we come to an agreement or something.
Either way OSI or not we need to fix some things or at least verify.
Each spell casts at the right speed
Damages are correct.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 11:23 pm
by The Silvertiger
The Silvertiger wrote:I will finally break down and do some casting tests, but you know I'm kinda thorough, so it'll take awhile.
I guess I won't. I keep having some sort of synchronization error and it's DCing me.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 11:35 pm
by Josh
The Silvertiger wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:I will finally break down and do some casting tests, but you know I'm kinda thorough, so it'll take awhile.
I guess I won't. I keep having some sort of synchronization error and it's DCing me.
You can't connect? u have to have remove encryption and encryption required selected to join osi (if thats the problem)

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 10th, 2019, 11:40 pm
by The Silvertiger
Josh wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:
The Silvertiger wrote:I will finally break down and do some casting tests, but you know I'm kinda thorough, so it'll take awhile.
I guess I won't. I keep having some sort of synchronization error and it's DCing me.
You can't connect? u have to have remove encryption and encryption required selected to join osi (if thats the problem)
I connect fine, but it keeps DCing and when I try relogging it says something about "client and world are desynchronized. Please restart your client and try again."

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 1:30 am
by Loler
I've stated problems with the casting. I've been ignored on all but the delay spell timing and even there they ignored the issue and did testing which showed "random" damage intervals even though i can go 100 for 100 casting magic arrow then trying to cast gheal on osi and get the cursor. But i can go 100 for 100 failing on demise. I showed a clip of both not the full 100 out of 100 cause its literally identical results every time.

The "tests" they are doing have human error in them either related to ping or something else which makes sense of constantly getting a variance of 250 ms on several different tests they've done throughout the years on osi.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 2:33 am
by Arden
Shit results ....

Shit in shit out

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 4:02 am
by Anthony File
Seems like we’re going to lose OSI casting to a 14 year old with a mass amount of spam accounts?..

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 4:31 am
by Josh
Anthony File wrote:Seems like we’re going to lose OSI casting to a 14 year old with a mass amount of spam accounts?..
Lol, hey man ajani/polu win again!

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 5:14 am
by Arden
Anthony File wrote:Seems like we’re going to lose OSI casting to a 14 year old with a mass amount of spam accounts?..
Everyone knows this except the people running the poll

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 8:48 am
by Duque
crying again......the server is more than the 10 forum active members with an endless complaining claim (i know more demise players that don't like OSI casting than OSI fans)......that supposed accusation could be used for OSI fanboys too....but i think it's more like bad loser stuff.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 9:09 am
by Alvin
Duque wrote:crying again......the server is more than the 10 forum active members with an endless complaining claim (i know more demise players that don't like OSI casting than OSI fans)......that supposed accusation could be used for OSI fanboys too....but i think it's more like bad loser stuff.
And i know more people in favor of the OSI casting than the Demise one hehe. You, with all due respect, might be one of the very few people i know who actively play (and played) the server and support the old casting.

I dare to say that the people who want to keep the OSI casting are people who actually play UODemise, while the other side are the people who pretend to have quitted because of the change (sorry but thats bullcrap), people who log in only to run some macros, people who play some other game/server whole week just to log in with other 30 people like them to gang normal players on an event/raid for 5 minutes and then log out.

So far the people 'crying' were the ones badly refusing to make progress and learn how to play with the new casting. And literally non of them made any serious arguments why should the Demise casting be brought back... Except for maybe Kobra, who seems to have a simple, but valid, reason why he votes for it - 'he wants to cast faster on spawns'.

Re: A thread not about casting

Posted: June 11th, 2019, 9:42 am
by The Silvertiger
Alvin wrote:"he wants to cast faster on spawns'.
I actually voted no due this. To quote myself "I'm a lazy spawner." Love it for dueling, but can't stand it for spawning. May have voted yes, if I were in a pvp guild not getting ganked by every guild on the server playing together.