Some thoughts about Demise

[tank]

Since you can see trash talking about afk gathering, vpn bots, bods collectors, hw bots etc...

My proposal is DELETE all bods and bod system, delete hw quests for kits and saws.

ADD all types of runics on special vendors with FIX price

What it will change?
Well.

- New players will not see this bullshit in UOG Demise public chat about afk scriping, vpn bots etc.
- Since afk gethering will not be profitable, we will see more pvp content here.
- Demise economy will be always fine

Please like this post if you like the idea.
If you dont like you are welcome to discuss below.

[Mr Straitions]

It seems like everyone and their brother have a hundred ideas on how to fix demise. The truth is you are all just saying what will benefit you the most; not the server as a whole.

Other people's success on a server does not and can not diminish your own. Just because there are people who got rich off of method XYZ doesn't mean it needs nerfed. It seems like everyone wants to nerf this and nerf that. IMO, staff should buff stuff that isn't fun instead of nerfing stuff that is fun. Otherwise we're just nerfing everything into oblivion because a random player thinks it's not cool or not like he remembers OSI 20 years ago.

People often come to Demise and see rich people who have played here for years and get discouraged. I believe this is flawed logic. Let's say you're over weight and walk into a gym full of fit people. You shouldn't say to yourself "these guys need nerfed! look at them! all sexy and stuff." That doesn't make any sense. They got fit, so can you. Same with UO.

In other words, don't nerf bods and heartwood just because people are successful with it. Instead, buff things that aren't as good. Like PVE.

[tank]

It seems like everyone and their brother have a hundred ideas on how to fix demise. The truth is you are all just saying what will benefit you the most; not the server as a whole.

Other people's success on a server does not and can not diminish your own. Just because there are people who got rich off of method XYZ doesn't mean it needs nerfed. It seems like everyone wants to nerf this and nerf that. IMO, staff should buff stuff that isn't fun instead of nerfing stuff that is fun. Otherwise we're just nerfing everything into oblivion because a random player thinks it's not cool or not like he remembers OSI 20 years ago.

Community doesnt care about current rich players. They just want to prevent it in the future. New players without scripts/vpns/bots dont want to see this shit.
i am 100% sure you are one of these afk VPN bod collectors. Cry more alter.

[Bad Religion]

Classic alter will defend against anything that would throw a wrench in the raping of the economy, blatant cheating(in pvp and pvm), and general disrespect to the game and server that gm mb and the rest of his minions have been doing, and encouraging, for years.

Hey eos, you want to know why so many of us are annoyed? Because you blindly let clowns like mb dictate fundamental aspects of the game for years and your staff still ignores every page/private message/forum message/forum post exposing the blatant cheating of one of your former(?) staff members and several of his henchmen.

This dude literally posted bragging about how he had hundred of billions of gold on a vendor from exploiting your leniency on things that you shouldn't be lenient on and that ruin the game/server/economy. Literally spitting on your face WHILE he was still staff.

How many times while he was staff did he come to you with the expoits that he used in pvp for years and tell you how broken and unbalanced they were? I guarantee it's not nearly as many as we caught him using and reported as bugs on the forums and eventually got fixed.

Have a great day demise!

[Bad Seed]

It seems like everyone and their brother have a hundred ideas on how to fix demise. The truth is you are all just saying what will benefit you the most; not the server as a whole.

Other people's success on a server does not and can not diminish your own. Just because there are people who got rich off of method XYZ doesn't mean it needs nerfed. It seems like everyone wants to nerf this and nerf that. IMO, staff should buff stuff that isn't fun instead of nerfing stuff that is fun. Otherwise we're just nerfing everything into oblivion because a random player thinks it's not cool or not like he remembers OSI 20 years ago.

Community doesnt care about current rich players. They just want to prevent it in the future. New players without scripts/vpns/bots dont want to see this shit.
i am 100% sure you are one of these afk VPN bod collectors. Cry more alter.

Hypocrisy at it's finest. Your opening comment is about people talking trash, someone gives their opinion that is different than yours and you jump to talking trash and accusations. Does someone need a hug or to talk? Perhaps there are some anger management courses in your community that can help you? Either way, please have a blessed day!

[tank]

Perhaps there are some anger management courses in your community that can help you? Either way, please have a blessed day!

i am always in peace. You should recommend some anger management courses to alter.
In this case, he will not delete his messages, call people meat shields and delete the PvP discord with full of his shame there

[The Silvertiger]

So your proposal is to move the afkers from Heartwood, where staff can easily check them, out into the world where they'll be farming gold in various ways? This is sarcasm, but true too.

Really something needs to be done about HW. On the bodders, maybe they should implement a captcha if you turn in a bod after you've turned a bod in the last 10 minutes. But then again someone said the captcha has been hacked...

The biggest issue imo is afk gold farmers. This is what makes it so difficult to get in the game for noobs. Most noobs don't have the know-how to make 1kk an hour. Gold drives the economy. If you cut the faucet down [influx of gold] you get lower prices which makes a noob friendly economy. So if you cut the gold, prices are lower and noobs don't get encouraged to farm those items because the prices are low, but that's all fantasy as that will never happen.

Ban UOS and EUO and any suspicious activity then the economy will fix itself.

[tank]

The biggest issue imo is afk gold farmers. This is what makes it so difficult to get in the game for noobs. Most noobs don't have the know-how to make 1kk an hour. Gold drives the economy. If you cut the faucet down [influx of gold] you get lower prices which makes a noob friendly economy. So if you cut the gold, prices are lower and noobs don't get encouraged to farm those items because the prices are low, but that's all fantasy as that will never happen.

Ban UOS and EUO and any suspicious activity then the economy will fix itself.

there are no places for everyone in tramel for afk gold farming. And for sure you will not be allowed for afk farm in Fel because of pvping

[tank]

Ban UOS and EUO and any suspicious activity then the economy will fix itself.

then how will we craft new items? how its possible to get barbed kits/hw kits/bs runics without scripts?

[The Silvertiger]

Same way we did before.

If one is afking you can do almost anything for gold. Chop trees and sell to carpenters.

[tank]

Same way we did before.

If one is afking you can do almost anything for gold. Chop trees and sell to carpenters.

they can make prices for wood/iron are very cheap in vendors
You cannot compare these activities with 50+ vpn accs for bods and 8+ hw bots per user with cheats

[Arden]

Yes ... let’s Let all the cheated items stay in the game so new players can over pay for shit players like tank got afk.

Trash idea. Delete this

[tank]

Yes ... let’s Let all the cheated items stay in the game so new players can over pay for shit players like tank got afk.

Trash idea. Delete this

i didnt get anything afk but i can see hw rewards on yours guildmates vendors

[tank]

Yes ... let’s Let all the cheated items stay in the game so new players...

as far as we are not going to create new server my idea in not bad for PREVENT AFKING in the future with MORE and MORE cheated items

[Arden]

Yes ... let’s Let all the cheated items stay in the game so new players can over pay for shit players like tank got afk.

Trash idea. Delete this

i didnt get anything afk but i can see hw rewards on yours guildmates vendors

Everyone on the server has afk’d items. Including you.