what do you think? (politicy stuff.. kinda)

[Facko]

hmm


3:13 - oh...

i legit don't know the numbers but just in the first few minutes hitlers media campaign seems more reasonable than what's going on now... fucking sad...

edit - listening further in, i was wrong... things could go this way though very easily

[Calvin]

https://youtu.be/kR_pOh3iTr8?t=107

maybe they play uo.. lol...

[Calvin]

does anyone remember soros saying like "everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong"?

like.. is it beyond the scope of imagination that they then bought biden and rigged the election with media bias, censorship, and general propaganda?

that biden is a global business shill, and is actually deliberately fkin your country up?

that all of this is like overt moves from sinister interests that were forced to stop being so covert?

[Calvin]

ya know what the real problem is..?

this is like a universal thing, where the principles are transferable.. and i'll explain it.. with games


2 games specifically, stronghold kingdoms, and foxhole. these are grand strategy games really.

now, grand stategy involves building large things. when you build a large thing, it is a culmination of smaller things - as i've said before - as above, so below.. you take care of the small scale stuff, and the large scale stuff falls into place.

so for example, in application to these games:
in stronghold kingdoms, you have a liege lord, who can send you 500 soldiers as a vassal army, this expands their maximum soldier pool. LL also gives bonus honour, so you level up a bit faster.

the ideal setup for this, is that the highest level players have the next highest level as their vassals, who then have the next level as their vassals, who then have the next level as their vassals.
(lets say each player has 5 vassals - this spans the whole rank range, theoretically by population quantity.) each players builds troops and fills their vassals.

however - what actually happens, is everyone wants the maximum bonus honour for levelling - so the highest level people have capacity vassals and a que, and everyone else has practically none.
no-one bothers with the troops, i guess because they figure they wont have them spare to send anyway, or they will lose them.. or something..

in foxhole:
players make equipment to send to the front lines to use.
equipment is made most efficiently in the back lines.
there are large scale transports, and small scale transports.
the idea is to craft and build at the back, then use the large scale transports to move a lot, to a distribution hub near the front -> then use small scale transport to move the things from the distribution hub, to the bases.
when you arrive at the base, the people with spawn set there get a lil pop up saying you have delivered some supplies, they can then give you a commend.
commends rank you up, and this is your reward as the end point of the chain.

but what do people do instead?
there is also smaller scale auxillery factories in the mid ground where you can craft emergency supplies.
people just use these to craft everything, and take the little they've made directly to the base with a small transport, to get a commend pop-up.
the result is that only the most forward spawn point gets stocked, often with whatever can be found close at hand, not the stuff it needs, etc.

these may seem like dumb points that are not related to anything, but they're actually the same problem as is infecting the whole world these days.

let me give you a real life example:
the NHS (national health service) and A+E (Accident and Emergency).
the proper way to get health care in the uk is to have a GP doctor.
you make an appointment with the GP, who can then send you several places, one is a pharmacy, or a specialist for diagnosis, or the hospital for treatment, etc. most simple treatments can be given directly on the spot.
accident and emergency is for exactly that, accidents and emergencies, it bypasses the GP diagnosis, and goes straight to the hospital for treatment, or diagnosis by a specialist.
many people (especially those new to the country), do not follow the GP precedure, and rely soley on A+E for all their medical needs.

do you see what im getting at?

there are procedures, and systems, and the correct ways of doing things, but everyone is kind of ignoring them and just looking for a shortcut to get what they want. this is the problem with the world these days.

as above so below.. as below so above.. and the below, the small scale, is a fkin mess. it's chaos.

[Facko]

does anyone remember soros saying like "everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong"?

like.. is it beyond the scope of imagination that they then bought biden and rigged the election with media bias, censorship, and general propaganda?

that biden is a global business shill, and is actually deliberately fkin your country up?

that all of this is like overt moves from sinister interests that were forced to stop being so covert?

That's what a lot of us think. More than rigged with just bias and censorship. Like the things we saw with our own eyes on election night. Kicking people out and covering up windows, lying about pipe leaks to count covertly. More than 100% voter turnout in a few places. The mule thing.

[Calvin]

does anyone remember soros saying like "everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong"?

like.. is it beyond the scope of imagination that they then bought biden and rigged the election with media bias, censorship, and general propaganda?

that biden is a global business shill, and is actually deliberately fkin your country up?

that all of this is like overt moves from sinister interests that were forced to stop being so covert?

That's what a lot of us think. More than rigged with just bias and censorship. Like the things we saw with our own eyes on election night. Kicking people out and covering up windows, lying about pipe leaks to count covertly. More than 100% voter turnout in a few places. The mule thing.

yeah as i say i think it was double rigged, and the first one wasn't even enough - hence why trump got really high numbers but still lost.

i think they really couldn't afford trump to stay in office cos it woulda been the end of their cold war and all that stuff.

this is why im saying it stopped being so covert and started being like, really fkin obvious; making big public moves. then the only way to get away with that is like with serious control of the media and internet.. lockdowns.. actual arrests of people that try to look into stuff.. :S

it's really actually kinda scary.

there's a scene in the new westworld where like the district attourny or something (not sure how that stuff works) goes to question the CEO of one of the companies, and the receptionist woman is like "do you have an appointment?"
he's like "lady, i represent the united states government".
and she's like "yes i know, do you have an appointment?"

it's gonna be like that.

an ya know what?
it's not even the first time - east india company was like that.
had it's own ships/docks/soldiers.


suppose it kinda boils down to who you trust more.. but to me it's a no-brainer rly; public sector/private sector. it's in the fkin name lol.

[Calvin]

oh wait.. i suppose if you're in the private sector it's kinda different..

[Facko]

[Calvin]

War is Peace


Freedom is Slavery


Ignorance is Strength




can i add Love is Hate?

[Calvin]

i think clownworld is maybe a lil too innocent of a term..


imo people didn't see the Love is Hate one coming, and it kinda undermines everything, allowing the others to flourish.

(gonna come do some event maps soon, i am.. just.. at war on stronghold at the moment.. and.. foxhole.. i got trolled by some angry lass cos i said she only had her rank cos she's a girl lol. then she spammed chat calling me a sexist and got me mass reported and banned for 12 hours lol. so i was like you ungrateful bastards lol, and stopped playing... they went from 30/32 victory points, to losing the war in 10 days.. consequently im getting spammed as fk when i logged in to check out the new war ^.^ )
(it's cos everyone is playing minute to minute gameplay, like an action game - i play it like a strategy game, and anyway; the best form of attack is to build something you can attack from first - so often i can have a lot more influence on the front by building; most of the time i dont even need to get my hands dirty cos the front magically moves back from where-ever you start building. honestly tho, 90% of the players dont put 2 and 2 together, they think their heroic action has pushed the front forward, and it's like yeah, but.. the heroic action happened because you were set up to be able to do that, and there are like 100 attempts at it an hour. it's a good lesson in funneling players actually.. 2 things are key - convenience, and habit.)
(but this is the thing, you spawn into an area i've built, and it's like "GO THIS WAY" "USE THIS" in subtle ways)

(it's kinda funny actually, cos like you'll build a base with the intention for it to be used for a thing, then you fill it with that thing; and people come to it and go "oh there's loads of these, we should use them!" then they go "ya know what this is a really good position to use these things, hey guys coms use these things over here". and it's like )
(tho you have to make it very very obvious, and even then you still have to tell people what to do half the time - voice chat makes a massive difference - i feel there's stuff that could be applied to uo design )


“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

see i never attack on games until i've already won.. i manuver to get into that position. its actually a lil annoying on foxhole cos i never get to attack, people have already pushed forward by the time im half ready lol.. hm.. maybe that's a point, im over-preparing. but then the bases have extended reach and serve as a backstop when the enemy pushes anyway..

[Facko]

there's a scene in the new westworld where like the district attourny or something (not sure how that stuff works) goes to question the CEO of one of the companies, and the receptionist woman is like "do you have an appointment?"
he's like "lady, i represent the united states government".
and she's like "yes i know, do you have an appointment?"

That's been the reality here since the 80s (possibly longer, born in 82). Welcome to America brother!

[Calvin]

it's ironic really, cos it's like, democracy being used to subvert democracy lol

like by being democratic, we have weakened the government with division, to the point where it's not the dominant force anymore, so even tho the government is democratic, it's also not in charge of anything anymore..

reminds me of communism lol

it's kind of divide and conquer.

having your cake and eating it is difficult. being democratic/communist kinda invariably leads to not actually having any power.
so you can have the right ideas, or you can have the power to achieve your ideas. you cant really have both. ironic world.


0:47

[Calvin]

future we wanted:



future we got:
*WARNING* this is genuinely one of the worst and most scarring things i've ever seen in my life.


i feel kinda ripped off

[Facko]

future we got:
*WARNING* this is genuinely one of the worst and most scarring things i've ever seen in my life.

i feel kinda ripped off

You wanna cave my skull in? It'd be more tolerable... please?

Am I still the asshole in the room if I want bill nye to die? Horribly...

[Calvin]

Bill Nye the Groomer Guy